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I live in an oak tree stand with bird feeders. I confess I find humor in sparrows, especially when one of the females are in heat as there are a dozen males all vying for her. I find it humorous because I know some men act like that. In the military they used to say, Nine to ninety, blind, crippled or crazy. I don’t know. Maybe I’m different. I’ve had more than one woman get upset with me when I declined her offer simply because of hygiene. As a massage therapist I was appalled at some women’s bad hygiene to where I made it a requirement to bathe prior to your appointment. So I guess that would be one of my -This aint go’n anywhere- peeves.
I’m rambling. I wanted this discussion to answer the question, “What are your absolute turnoffs?” Where do you draw the line? On the other hand, is there something which no matter what else is wrong if there is this one thing you’re all in? I’ll attach a link on the discussion of women and tattoos. I’ll hold my tongue on that issue but would like to hear what others think about that..
Well, at least he doesn’t have an issue with men penetrating other men, over and over and over with needles 😂😂😂
My turnoffs, I agree with hygiene. As well as, unskilled with their mouths.Well, I watched the video. That’s time I’ll never get back. I’m mortified that shit is on my “watch history” along with all the other men living in their mother’s basements! 🤮🤮🤮
And since you asked what our absolute turnoffs are, I suppose I’ve discovered another one, misogyny wearing a little science costume and hoping nobody checks the seams!!!
Because holy cherry-picked research, Batman.
Some of the “evidence” presented here is literally research about how people PERCEIVE tattooed women. Men assuming a tattooed woman is more promiscuous tells us what those men assume about tattooed women. It does not prove that the woman is promiscuous. That distinction should not require a graduate degree.
Then we have research involving ADOLESCENTS being trotted out to help men “vet” adult women for long-term relationships.
What?
Finding correlations between tattoos and certain behaviors in a particular population also does not give you a scientifically validated cheat code for looking at an individual woman and determining her sexual history, mental health, ability to pair-bond, likelihood of divorce or suitability as a wife.
That isn’t “following the science.” That’s starting with I don’t like tattoos on women and rummaging through Google Scholar until you can make it sound like a risk assessment.
And can we PLEASE talk about the fucking Lamborghini analogy?
Women are not Lamborghinis.
We are not pristine luxury objects whose resale value decreases when we alter the factory paint.
The entire premise is so revealing. A woman is apparently something a discerning man inspects for modifications, checks for warning signs, assesses for previous use and then decides whether she meets his standards for acquisition.
Hard pass.
And the funniest part is that absolutely NONE of this elaborate intellectual scaffolding is necessary.
You don’t like tattoos on women?
Cool.
Don’t date women with tattoos.
You don’t need seven studies, a YouTube video and a TED Talk about female promiscuity to justify what turns your dick off.
And frankly, after beginning this discussion with female sparrows “in heat,” segueing into women who supposedly wanted you but whose hygiene failed inspection, and finishing with a video teaching men how to “vet” women by their bodies…
I think you inadvertently answered your own question about absolute turnoffs far more thoroughly than anyone else here possibly could.
GOOD GRIEF!
Eyes closed, ears perked, sensitive touch and nose are the 4 senses I use turn on to guide me through the “getting acquainted “ phase.
Your points are well taken. I appreciate your instruction. After retirement I sought out employment in a blue collar, union sh*t house to provide medical insurance for my family. That shop was almost completely male employment. Men were free to be themselves. That too offered an unasked for education. IMHO, wisdom is to be gleaned from listening to the perspectives of others. It’s not always easy. For it is natural to counter with either a defensive apology or an offensive one or a mixture there of. As one gets older, however, I have come to learn that it best simply to smile and accept the fact that we all are self-oriented. i.e. we tend to be our own reference point.
Thank you for sharing your point of view. I see much wisdom in it.
I thought this thread was going to be about how women can judiciously choose the men that they allow into contact with their bodies for ABF.
You know…?
Because men are responsible for, like, 99% of murders, sexual assaults, assaults and 99.9% of serial murders and coercive control…. Men can overpower women in an instant and change the power dynamic if they choose to. How do women assuredly choose a partner that we can safely trust??
Glad to know you’re keeping an eye on what’s important, fellas! Tattoos!
Good luck out there finding a ANR partner while you’re slut-shaming her at the same time.
What a horrible video!!
Pure misogynyc talk!! Not okay. Its shocking how he talks about women. He pretends to be backed by studies but doesnt name any. Later on he is more honest by saying ‘ in my opinion’. Its no more than that.
Its not innocent though. You cant like tattoo’s bur he is judging women by labeling them promiscuous if he doesnt like them.Talking in general , “we all know” , ” we ‘ ve all been with a chick like that” is typical for manosphere. Women, according for this men, should be nurturing and useful by making their lives easy. And of course they had a go at feminism by framing it in a way feminism isnt about at all. They know nothing.
This vid is damaging. Not innocent at all. Not just an opinion, its full of hate.In the army it was be all you can be. Meaning the best. Your references were from the a holes that just didn’t get the message. The mantra of the clueless mother few or the brave. The 1%ers in your video are of the clueless ilk. Pretty deplorable in my opinion.
Does this all mean i wont ever make a sandwich for my partner (as claimed in that horrendous vid about what feminists are) ? Of course not. I ll do it when i feel like it or when he asks me to. Life to gether is teamwork and you help each other. I will help him when he is ill, and i also would expect him to do the same for me. He can make me a sandwich when i need it at a certain moment too. And i dont count. We can take each other out for dinner. I just dont believe certain tasks should be typical male or typical female. Thats so restricting.
Both should be able to grow and learn. Its what works in the dynamic betweeen two people.
I got a vrry clumsy brother. Should he drill a hole in a wall ( which he tried and he hit the water pipe) it will lead to disaster. Is it wrong when my very capable sister in law does it instead? My partner was ill for a long time, seceral years. So i should stay home and hold his hand and be poor instead of bringing home the bac9n while he helped our kids? Come on!! Its teamwork. And dont come on here telling me thats not feminine. Fuck off.I really had hoped we could find some respect for women on here and that yhis could be a place where we would not have to deal with mysogynice bullshit from scared men who as Lola put it so beautifully are living in the cellar at their moms house. Blaming women for all the misery in their pathetic little world. Poor victims. Cry baby.
Ooh trying to teach Lola to listen to different opinions! Patronizing!!If anyone can listen, its her!!
Its not just another opninion from ‘ men being themselves’. Its dismissuve towards women in general. That hateful and not innocent.Men are not above women. Wre dont need men to judge us or to tell us what to do. Thats not your role. If you really tjink that bad of eomen then why co.e on here? Go look for a man. You can be yourself among them.
Have you seen the man in the stadium in the Giants game? The one who let his partner carry the toddlervthe bag and their food? Didnt help her? Stayes in his seat and dug in witjout making sure her and the kid could eat too? Thats not being a man. Thats be8ng an asshole letting her doing it all. No teamwork andvin time ” the divorce came out of nowhere” . Hell yeah.
I really do appreciate this response. You could’ve gotten defensive or doubled down, and you didn’t. You actually heard what I was saying, and I respect that.
I did laugh at “men were free to be themselves,” though. I’m not entirely convinced putting a bunch of men together with no women around gives us some pure, unfiltered glimpse into the male psyche. Mostly I think it gives somebody enough time to draw a penis on a forklift.
But there’s also a real difference between learning how men “are” and learning how some men talk about women when women aren’t around.
And THAT was really my issue with the video. There’s already so much bullshit floating around telling men how to judge, rank, vet and decode women based on our bodies, our sexuality, our tattoos, our age, our choices…whatever the fuck it is that week. I’m tired of women being discussed like we’re a category of product men need YouTube tutorials to properly evaluate.
So yeah, I came in hot! I meant what I said, though!
But I genuinely appreciate the way you took it. We can disagree, say what we actually think, maybe even piss each other off a little, and still hear each other! Hell, that’s usually where the interesting conversations are anyway. 🤓
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