Can we talk about safety?

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  • #205912
    Bella
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male
    • USA
    • Maryland

    The main goal of many on the site is to locate a partner. There have been some forum posts that have underlying discussions about safety but nothing in one space. Sometimes people are in frenzy or eagerly looking for their first/next session, this can lead to poor decisions and/or choosing someone who does not mesh with you.

    We all have boundaries and they should be shared between both parties. Remaining firm in your boundaries or values doesn’t make you less of a person, its shows self-assurance and integrity. No one should try to coerce, manipulate, or shame you into doing anything. Someone who cannot respect your boundaries online, will not respect your boundaries in person. If you decide to move forward with the meeting regardless of uncertainty to “see where it goes”, be mindful of all the interactions.

    Red flags during online conversations
    (Some were personally done or said to me, some are based on what others have shared)

    -Repeatedly asking for pictures when you don’t want to share. This is any type and is not limited to nudes.
    -Request for sexual acts when you’ve verbalized in chat or profile that you want a nonsexual relationship or encounter.
    -Attempts to change your hard limits (whatever that is to you).
    -Pushing to engage in a session immediately and it’s not a mutual decision

    Comments:
    “I’m the best suckler you’ll ever meet, I’ve never had any complaints. You’re missing out, you should give me a try.”
    “You said you wanted someone close, I’m in your area. Why can’t we meet? What more do you want?”
    “I’ll pay you for your time.”
    “I’m a size (insert bra size), you’ll love nursing from me.”
    “You said you want milk, I’m fully induced.”

    “You’re a (insert job title), where’s your compassion”
    This was personally said to me after I declined meeting a THIRD time, they said they were too nervous to meet twice before. Your career/job has nothing to do with being shamed into a meeting.

    “I’m going to post your pics if you don’t meet with me.”
    *Be mindful of the type of pictures you are sharing. Are you sharing your face in nudes? Revenge Porn Laws vary by State and in the UK.*

    Meeting in Real Life

    Request to know their real name; not their ABFH, Reddit, or FetLife name. (This can be requested long before the first meeting.)

    It’s best practice to meet in a neutral space before a session. If a session is NOT meant to follow, be sure your partner is aware. Should there be a plan to have a session and you change your mind; it is your personal decision and that is ok. If the conversation turns into shaming, coercion, or manipulation, end the interaction and seek help if necessary.

    The first interaction in real life doesn’t have to be long and drawn out. It doesn’t hurt to leave time for another meeting. Set a timeframe for the interaction “I have 20 minutes, 30 minutes, or an hour to meet.” If that person is for you, you will have many more interactions.

    Before meeting/session, share with someone you trust where you are going. If they are unaware of your kink, choose something that allows you to check in after. Determine if you have the ability to share your location, as an added layer of safety. Check in after the meeting/session and let that person of choice know you are done and safe. Share your session/dates until you feel comfortable with your partner to stop if you decide to.

    Overall, know what you are consenting to and both parties are still aware of the online conversations.

      Consent is a whole discussion of its own.

    Remind that person of your boundaries and hard limits before entering the session.

    Be aware of your surroundings:
    Where is your meeting location for a non-session? Does the location have enough foot traffic without others being intrusive? Public spaces are highly recommended, if there is pressure to come directly to their home or hotel room first proceed with caution. (I wouldn’t be going but I know there are some risk-takers.)

    When meeting at someone’s residence, ask who else lives there or if others are visiting while you are present. Know your exit(s). Where are you parking; around the corner, in front of the residence, garage, or in a lot? Are they walking you to your vehicle? Is the area safe? (look a crime maps)

    This is very basic information not an exhaustive list of safety tips. Make the best decision for you before engaging in an intimate act(s) with someone. It’s okay to be eager to meet a partner, be safe in your actions. No one is obligated to do anything and No is a complete sentence. If someone is uncomfortable, a reasoning is not needed for your closure, a reasoning it a courtesy.

    Share red flags, safety tips, or protocols you use to remain safe that may help another member in the community.

    #205913
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you for this. I think we forget that people are just people and they may not have out best intrest at heart. Even if the share iur hob ies and intrest.

    #205941
    Grogman 🚀🍑💙🏔️
    Participant
    • Male
    • Looking for: Female
    • USA
    • Ohio

    Great information Bella. Thank you for sharing about this topic.
    Setting ground rules before meeting for a session is very important. To protect yourself and your partner.

    #205943
    ✍️Philip❤️‍🔥U♔🦮🏊
    Participant
    • Male
    • Looking for: Female
    • USA
    • Washington D.C. area

    This should be a standard on any site like this. Thanks for taking up the reigns and reminding us all. My process is simple: chat online, meet in person with the only expectation being in-person conversation, and then onto more personal/intimate activities like ABF, all assuming each prior step goes well. It’s a basic rule regardless of one’s interests.

    #205946
    Lew Banelis
    Participant
    • Male
    • Looking for: Female
    • USA
    • Massachusetts

    I would add that would the potential partner be willing to submit to A CORI check. I was asked by a woman if she could run a CORI background check on me. She was a police dispatcher. I agreed and she ran the check. I came up clean and she appreciated that I submitted to her request. We are after all strangers to one another at first. In the interest of trust and safety we potential partners should be upfront and honest about who we are. We owe it to our potential partners.

    #205947
    James
    Participant
    • Male
    • Looking for: Female
    • USA
    • Florida

    A valuable post Bella, thank you. Thanks also to the thoughtful comments.
    I would like to add a reminder. Any rude, disrespectful, controlling, or toxic behavior should be reported to Michael_Admin. He will delete troublemakers from the site which goes a long way to making this a quality safe site for all users.

    #205989
    Ms.Spicy 🌶️
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male
    • USA
    • Massachusetts

    Hi Bella,

    A very nice post. Many people don’t realize that polite users are tested on this site. I have had to change my profile picture a few times so I have breathing space to think and be nice to people who message me 🙂

    One experiment every person should try is to just change their name to the opposite gender. My friend tried this and he had a bit of experience of what it is like to be a female on this site 🙂

    Thank you Bella for raising awareness ❤️

    #206056
    Michael_Admin
    Keymaster
    • Male
    • Looking for: Female
    • United Kingdom

    I would advise against “changing names to opposite gender” type experiments. I understand MsLatte’s suggestion is well intentioned. But a lot of time and effort goes on behind the scenes on ABFheaven to keep users safe, and that includes making sure that men can not register as women.

    We really do not need any further confusion adding to the situation.

    Thanks.

    #206188
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Bella, wonderful post and wise words. I would like to add to your list of “red flags”.

    All of these have happened to me and they’ve turned out to be bad characters.

    A user asks you to go off site or pressures you to go off site, very quickly after an introduction, without really determining if there is compatibility.

    If the user quickly deletes their profile when you agree to take the conversation off site. I’ve had this happen a couple of times. They say that they found “the one” they are looking for. Impossible to be true so quickly.

    I think you said this, but I’ve found it to be a huge red flag when you’re off site or on site talking to someone for some time, with mutual interest, and they refuse to voice verify or give you their full name and exact location.

    We have to remember that the reality of online dating allows cowards and liars to flourish and easily use misinformation to feed their selfish desires.

    #206258
    Grandtetons
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male & Female
    • USA
    • Washington state

    I would also include a background check. I’ve learned the hard way too many times. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. Make sure you get candid photos. Like as them for a picture of them holding a specific item, ie, a fork, tv remote, newspaper, make it silly, something that they can’t just find on the internet. If they lack any respect for you as a person, red flag. @bella3

    #206413
    Bella
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male
    • USA
    • Maryland

    I’m glad the information was well received. Thanks to those who added more valuable information.

    #212130
    Treasure Chest
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male
    • USA
    • Texas

    I think this is gold advice from @bella3 and our other respondents. @tuehlykv I propose this thread be edited and curated (with credits) into our Resources blog, which I’m more than happy to do if @bella3 agrees.

    #212149
    JUICYBOOBIES 🇮🇪☘️
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male
    • Rep. of Ireland

    Fantastic post. A must read for everyone.

    #212415
    YellowRoseDFW
    Participant
    • Female
    • Looking for: Male
    • USA
    • Texas

    Great information and a very good reminder to everyone! Thanks so much!

    #212468
    Steve
    Participant
    • Male
    • Looking for: Female
    • USA
    • New York

    @nicholeh This has actually saved my life (yes as a man) and the female partners I met were pleasantly happy to oblige without showing their face to this kind of request. Helped us determine we were real people and for me it helped me figure out someone who was “too good to be true” was actually a couple of guys waiting to mug me.

    Crazy stuff, fortunately not from this site but still….

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